dominopads ([info]dominopads) wrote in [info]cloth_pads,

Sharing an idea with fellow pad makers :)

Hello fellow pad makers! I've spent too many nights cutting liners out of fleece and was looking for a cost effective way to reproduce them more accurately and more efficiently.

I think I found it. Check it out I am so excited!

Dies like these are in fact used in the garment industry but they run around $350 per die and $5000 for the clicker press.

I found a die maker in Texas that works mainly with leather workers (saddles, holsters, etc.) that makes dies less expensively and also was willing to share an idea for modifying a shop press into a clicker press. (My biggest die cost $80, the shop press was $150 and the steel plates were $60, Poly board was $10 at Walmart)

Initially I was hoping I could skip the press all together but an engineer told me that for dies my size it would take about 6 tons of pressure to cut anything.

So it didn't work with just a mallet.

I got the shop press (12 ton) at Norterntools and had 2 steel plates (1/2" thick) made locally to measure just slightly bigger than my biggest die.

I bought a poly board (to not dull the dies) at Walmart and cut it to size with a skill saw.

The Poly board of course goes on top of the bottom steel plate.
http://www.dominopads.com/press1.jpg

fold the material and center the die
http://www.dominopads.com/press2.jpg

metal plate on top of the die and crank it down
http://www.dominopads.com/press3.jpg

remove top plate and see if all is cut. (on the bigger dies I have to move them and press a 2nd or 3rd time to get a clean cut all around)
http://www.dominopads.com/press4.jpg

excess material removed
http://www.dominopads.com/press5.jpg

That's a stack of 7 13"liners - all cut at once. HURRAY!


The best part is how symmetrical and clean they cut out (versus hand cut). It also takes only about 1/4 of the time it would take me to do them by hand and I am guessing I am going to get faster.

I've loved it so much I got dies for all of my standard sizes (petites, regular, plus/longs).
The only ones I still cut by hand are the custom width petites. (My petites used to be the same width - 3"- as my regulars. My new petites are 2.5" across the center and some customers still prefer the wider petites)

Anyway. I know we all need more sleep so I figured I share this idea in case somebody else can use it too.
I just love how professional, perfectly accurate and beautiful my new liners are!

Have a great week :)

Karin
www.dominopads.com


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[info]noelove

May 26 2009, 00:17:39 UTC 3 years ago

awesome post! can you put all the pictures behind a cut please?

Thanks!

[info]dominopads

May 26 2009, 00:36:05 UTC 3 years ago

I am not sure what a cut is but if you tell me how to do it I'd be happy to (I am guessing it's some kind of reformatting?)

[info]dalyax

May 26 2009, 01:09:08 UTC 3 years ago

Oh sweet! I've always wondered how textiles are quickly cut into a specific shape :) This is so neat!

And my domino pad is my one of my favorite heavy flow pads <3. What do you use in the core now?

Oh and here is a lino showing how to do an lj cut: http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=75

:)

[info]dalyax

May 26 2009, 01:10:49 UTC 3 years ago

ugh. excuse that stupid typo "lino" x.x I meant tutorial!

[info]dominopads

May 26 2009, 01:25:24 UTC 3 years ago

thank you :) i think i got it

[info]dalyax

May 26 2009, 01:34:31 UTC 3 years ago

No problem! I was wondering what do you put in your pads now? It is only bamboo fleece? :)

[info]dominopads

May 26 2009, 01:45:15 UTC 3 years ago

It varies by pad. All of the soaker layers are bamboo blends but depending on the absorbency it could be any of the following:
bamboo/organic cotton fleece
bamboo/organic cotton terry
bamboo/viscose/poly fiber blend

and of course bamboo/organic cotton velour on top.
;)

[info]dalyax

May 26 2009, 14:03:25 UTC 3 years ago

Ohh! Thank You :)

[info]kissmybahookie

May 26 2009, 01:38:09 UTC 3 years ago

wow, that's a clever idea. :)

Not for someone like me, though, only making pads for myself and my daughter. :D I'll stick to cutting by hand.

[info]majortom_thecat

May 26 2009, 02:18:16 UTC 3 years ago

Neat-o! I used to work in a pants factory and we didn't have anything like that. There was a huge cutting table with people crawling all over it using electric rotary cutters.

So you crank it down vs pushing a button to make it go? Does it take some practice getting the hang of knowing when it's cut through all the layers?

[info]dominopads

May 26 2009, 03:33:47 UTC 3 years ago

Yes, that's exactly right. It's a manual hydraulic press so I crank it down until the resistance feels right. I can check if the fleece on the outside separates and go from there.

[info]majortom_thecat

May 26 2009, 17:20:15 UTC 3 years ago

Thanks for posting this. I think the manual hydraulic kind is an important thing to look for, for anyone else who is considering modifying a shop press. I saw on some other forum where they were saying that it would be a headache to configure the push button type of press but the manual type is doable. Clicker presses are expensive!

[info]littlravn

May 26 2009, 03:15:21 UTC 3 years ago

OMG wow. Incredible post!
I spend more time cutting out pads than I do actually sewing them. I had looked at options like this, but they seemed so daunting and expensive it didn't seem realistic but seeing your setup, it might be doable after all. Awesomeness!

[info]andrewsdk

May 26 2009, 04:07:54 UTC 3 years ago

Drool.....

And, if it weren't for the cutting, I'd still be making pads. I HATE cutting them out. I found these machines, but they are definitely more expensive.
http://www.accuquilt.com/?gclid=CIzKk82EjZoCFQENDQodjCinEQ

[info]cmarie14

May 27 2009, 21:31:55 UTC 3 years ago

Wow, that's really cool. I wonder how much their custom dies cost...

[info]majortom_thecat

May 29 2009, 14:51:03 UTC 3 years ago

I wonder how that would work for mass production.

Here's a nice, efficient space saver http://tippmannclicker.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66&products_id=184 I can't afford it so I'm getting a shop press like Karin did but I have a coupon for $50 off the machine or $100 off the accessories if you're interested.

[info]luna__wolf

May 26 2009, 10:32:38 UTC 3 years ago

That's amazing! What a neat idea!

[info]cmarie14

May 27 2009, 21:31:36 UTC 3 years ago

I saw your post of this on DS - I tried to describe it to my husband, but he was flummoxed. I'll have to show him your post. :P I hate cutting - so time consuming!
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